BBC 6 minute English-Robin Hood

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Alice: Hello and welcome to 6 Minute English. I’m Alice

Neil: … and I’m Neil. Hello

Alice: Hello, Neil. Now what do you know about Robin Hood

Neil: OK. Well, he wore green tights

Alice: Yes, he did

Neil: He was good at archery… he had a girlfriend called Maid Marion. He was English – although he sometimes he has an American accent in Hollywood films

Alice: Yes

Neil: There was a great Disney cartoon series using animal characters. Robin and Maid Marion were foxes

Alice: Anything else? What about being an outlaw or criminal? Heroically fighting against injustice and corruption

Neil: Oh yeah, there’s all that stuff as well – robbing the rich and giving to the poor. Yes, yeah… he lived in Sherwood Forest with a band of merry men

Alice: Yes, he did. OK, it sounds like you’ve watched a lot of TV and film versions but haven’t read the literature

Neil: Oh, come on, Alice! Have you read the literature

Alice: Yes I have. I studied English at university and one of my specialist subjects was medieval literature. The Middle Ages or medieval period lasted in Europe from the 5th to the 15th century

Neil: I see. And I’m guessing that Robin Hood is the subject of today’s show

Alice: Absolutely. You’re right! So here’s a question for you, Neil: When do we find the first reference to Robin Hood in English literature? Was it in the

a) 5th century

b) 10th century? Or

c) 14th century

Neil: Well, I’m going to go for the middle one – and that’s b) 10th century

Alice: OK. Well, we’ll find out if you’re right or wrong later on. Now, why do you think the stories of Robin Hood have lasted from the Middle Ages through to the modern day

Neil: Well, I suppose it’s got appeal on lots of levels – action, adventure – there’s some comedy stuff there with the merry men. And of course, romance, like I said before

Alice: Yes, indeed. Actually the early versions of Robin Hood were very violent. Let’s listen to Professor Thomas Hahn talk about one of the ballads called The Monk

INSERT Thomas Hahn, Professor of English Literature at the University of Rochester, New York

The Monk is, I think for most modern audiences who’ve either seen movies or read children’s stories or whatever, quite disturbing in terms of its levels of violence. In terms of trying to make some comparisons with popular culture it seems to me that it’s really at the level of Sopranos in terms of things like dismembered bodies and actual violence and assassinations

Neil: What’s a ballad, Alice

Alice: Well, It’s a song or poem that tells a story. People were telling the stories of Robin Hood for a long time before they were written down – and performing them too

Neil: Really? And how about the comparison between the Robin Hood ballads and the Sopranos? Now The Sopranos is a popular US TV series about gangsters. Maybe I should get The Monk on audiobook. What do you think

Alice: Yes, I don’t think you’d find it disturbing – disturbing means making you feel upset or shocked. Assassinations are the murder of important people, often for political reasons. And dismembered bodies are bodies that have been cut or torn into pieces

Neil: Right. It sounds like medieval entertainment for guys. You know, like martial arts movies these days

Alice: Well, yes, you may be right. Now do you remember you mentioned Maid Marion at the start of the show

Neil: I do

Alice: Well, actually, in the early ballads there is no Maid Marian. She appears in later versions along with other characters we know well today. But Robin is always a trickster, and a man with a bow in a wood

Neil: A trickster is someone who deceives or cheats people. That’s impressive, Alice. You certainly know your medieval ballads

Alice: Yes, I do. So what’s so appealing about this man with a bow? Let’s listen to Professor Hahn again

INSERT Thomas Hahn, Professor of English Literature at the University of Rochester, New York

What he represents I think is a kind of strong and forceful masculinity that operates on its own terms and for its own interests and that’s I think what we admire in these stories

Neil: What does it mean to operate on your own terms, Alice

Alice: Well, Neil, it means to do what you want according to your own rules. And masculinity means the qualities typical of a man. Now, remember my question from earlier? I asked: When do we find the first reference to Robin Hood in English literature? Was it in the

a) 5th century

b) 10th century? Or

c) 14th century

Neil: And I said b) 10th century

Alice: Yes, well… I’m afraid you are wrong, Neil. The first reference occurs in the English poet William Langland’s book Piers Plowman written between 1370 and 1390. Sloth, the lazy priest, says: I kan not parfitly my Paternoster as the preest it singeth,/ But I kan rymes of Robyn Hood and Randolf Erl of Chestre

Neil: Well, Alice, can you translate that into modern English, please? Maybe that’s for another show

Alice: Maybe another show

Neil: Can we just have today’s words again, please

Alice: We certainly can. And we can have those in modern English. OK. Here they are

outlaw medieval period or Middle Ages ballad disturbing assassinations dismembered bodies trickster operate on your own terms masculinity

Neil: Well, that brings us to the end of today’s 6 Minute English. We hope you enjoyed today’s walk in the woods. Please do join us again soon

Both: Bye