BBC 6 minute English-High-vis fashion

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Neil: Hello. Welcome to 6 Minute English, I’m Neil

Rob: And I’m Rob

Neil: Rob, it’s good to see you keeping up with fashion by wearing the high-vis jacket – although I have to say it is a bit dazzling

Rob: Neil, I’m no fashion victim – this high-vis or high-visibility jacket is for safety. I wear it when I’m cycling around London and I’ve just forgotten to take it off

Neil: And a fashion victim, by the way, is someone who always wears what’s thought to be fashionable, even if it doesn’t actually look good on them. But wearing high-vis clothing has become the latest fashion statement – that’s something you wear to attract attention and people who know something about fashion

Rob: Well, I can assure you, I don’t wear my bright jacket to look cool but in today’s programme we’ll be discussing why some people do. But first Neil, have you got a question for us to think about

Neil: OK, we know that fashions come and go but in which decade were leg warmers worn as a popular fashion accessory? Was it

a) the 1970s

b) the 1980s or

c) the 1990s

Rob: I do remember these so I’ll say b) the 1980s

Neil: Well, we’ll reveal the answer at the end of the programme. Now let’s talk more about the oddest item of clothing to hit the catwalk this year – the humble high-vis jacket

Rob: Yes, they were designed to be worn for safety by people like cyclists and pedestrians and by workers who need to be seen if, for example, they’re working in the road or directing traffic. So it’s strange to think that now people choose to wear them to be on-trend – that’s following the latest fashion

Neil: Hannah Marriott is the Fashion Editor of the Guardian newspaper. She told the BBC Radio 4 programme You and Yours, why she thought people were turning to bright, luminous clothing. What was the reason

Hannah Marriott, Fashion Editor, The Guardian

There’s also just a trend at the moment for people wearing very bright things, very eye-catching things, it feels that with social media, you know, everyone’s scrolling down their Instagram screens at such speed and anything that sort of catches the eye, that seems yeah, like a bit of a talking point, something that’s going to get a bit of attention – those kind of trends are getting a bit more traction at the moment – than the sort of understated cashmere jumper kind of fashion

Rob: So her reason is social media. In our fast-paced lives, we’re quickly scrolling through our social media feeds and people want to stand out, attract our attention and be noticed

Neil: And these attention-seekers need to wear some eye-catching – something that will catch your eye and be noticed. High-vis clothing certainly does that

Rob: Hannah mentioned that wearing something different creates a talking point – something that you or I may discuss at work or on social media – even if it is to say “that guys looks ridiculous”! And she also mentions that people are becoming interested in and accepting these kinds of trends – the word she used was traction

Neil: Traction here means this fashion trend is starting to stick. Of course fashion comes at a price. While an ordinary high-vis vest used for workwear is normally affordable, when they’re sold as a fashion item they can go for much higher prices, particularly if they have a designer label showing on the front

Rob: This raises an important question. We know that many people wearing high-vis jackets are doing important jobs, so does this fashion devalue what they’re doing

Neil: Yes, it’s something Hannah Marriott talked about. Let’s hear from her again. What word does she use to describe a difficult issue

Hannah Marriott, Fashion Editor, The Guardian

Every time fashion borrows from workwear, there’re always some sort of thorny issues around it – particularly when you’re charging £۲۰۰۰ for something that is actually very similar to, you know, a uniform that somebody might be wearing who doesn’t actually make that much money, you know, there’s obviously some thorny class issues there

Neil: So she used the word thorny to describe the issue of things worn at work becoming expensive fashion items. Thorny issues are subjects that are difficult deal with. Here she particularly mentioned the issue of class – so different groups of people in society in different economic positions – some can afford clothing for fashion, others can only afford clothing for work

Rob: And the other issue is that if everyone starts wearing high-vis clothing, then the people who need to stand out for their own safety may not stand out as easily

Neil: And we wouldn’t want to miss you when you’re out cycling on your bike, Rob. But would we miss you if you were wearing a pair of leg warmers? Earlier I asked in which decade were leg warmers worn as a popular fashion accessory. Was it

a) the 1970s

b) the 1980s or

c) the1990s

Rob: Yes, and I said b) the 1980s. It’s got to be right

Neil: Well, you know your fashion, Rob – it was indeed the 1980s. Leg warmers were originally worn by dancers to keep their muscles from cramping after stretching, but in the early 1980s they became fashionable for teenage girls to wear

Rob: OK, let’s move on and recap on some of the vocabulary we’ve mentioned today. Starting with fashion victim – that’s someone who always wears what’s thought to be fashionable, even if it doesn’t actually look good on them. Like that pair of red jeans you used to wear, Neil

Neil: They, Rob, were on-trend – that means ‘in keeping up with the latest fashion’. Of course wearing something red is very eye-catching which means attracting attention and being noticed

Rob: Next we mentioned traction. If something gains traction it becomes accepted and popular. And then we had understated. In fashion, this describes something that does not attract attention and is not that impressive

Neil: And then we discussed the word thorny. A tree or bush with thorns is difficult to touch and handle and similarly a thorny issue is a subject that is difficult to deal with and discuss

Rob: Well, we’ve covered some thorny and less thorny issues today but we know that fashions change and maybe high-vis fashion won’t be here forever

Neil: That’s it for now but please join us next time for 6 Minute English. See you soon. Goodbye

Rob: Bye bye