BBC 6 minute English-Do as I say, not as I do

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Alice: Hello and welcome to 6 Minute English. I’m Alice

Rob: And I’m Rob

Alice: Did I see you arriving in a huge red pick-up truck this morning

Rob: Yes – it’s great, isn’t it

Alice: It’s very big… and red. But Rob, aren’t you a supporter of the movement to preserve the environment

Rob: Erm… Yes

Alice: A gas-guzzling car for an environmentalist, Rob? Isn’t that a contradiction – aren’t you being a hypocrite

Rob: Well, it’s very fuel-efficient, Alice. It’s quite eco-friendly actually

Alice:That’s ridiculous and you know it. Hypocrisy is the subject of today’s show, and maybe we should start by exploring the meaning of hypocrite. Can you tell me what did the Ancient Greek word ‘hypocrite’ originally mean? Was it

a) actor

b) politician Or

c) horse

Rob: OK, that’s easy. I think it’s b) politician

Alice: Well, we’ll find out whether you got the answer right or not later in the show. Now, these days the meaning has changed, and a hypocrite means somebody who says one thing and does another

Rob: Like you telling me not to bite my nails because it’s a disgusting habit… and then I see you doing it later the same day

Alice: Hmm. Well, sometimes it’s hard to be consistent. I do think nail biting is disgusting – but then when I’m a bit nervous I do it without thinking

Rob: We’re often inconsistent in what we say or do, though, aren’t we? Inconsistent means changeable

Alice: There is an explanation for us sometimes saying one thing and behaving in a very different way. Let’s listen to Professor Clancy Martin at the University of Missouri in the US. He teaches Philosophy so he knows a thing or two about the way we think

INSERT Clancy Martin, Professor of Philosophy at the University of Missouri in Kansas City, US

So while you might be enormously compassionate in your role as a teacher or a parent, you might find yourself being quite harsh and direct when it comes to your role as a brother or a sister. So then you see that – now wait a second if I’ve got all these inconsistencies all over the place in my character can I really say that I’m a sincere and authentic individual? Or am I just kind of blowing with which ever way my relationship winds kind of incline me

Rob: Professor Clancy Martin. So we play different roles in life and these roles may seem contradictory but they’re just part of being the same person. Sometimes you’re a bit harsh and direct with me, Alice, aren’t you? Do you see yourself as my sister? She used to pick on me

Alice: Harsh means stern and unkind. I don’t mean to be unkind to you, Rob. Maybe I could try and be more compassionate towards you – it means show a bit of sympathy and concern now and then

Rob: Offer me good words. At least promise you’ll be nice to me. That you’ll bring me tea and biscuits

Alice: That’s what politicians do. They promise they will do what people want and … often they don’t. And it’s a big problem for them. Let’s talk about politicians and hypocrisy

Rob: They have to express opinions about so many things that it’s easy to catch them out being hypocritical… – and then we, the public, get morally indignant about it

Alice: Yes. To catch somebody out means to discover they have made a mistake. And morally indignant means being angry about something, according to principles of right and wrong. Let’s listen to Professor Martin again talking about the difficulties of being a politician

INSERT Clancy Martin, Professor of Philosophy at the University of Missouri in Kansas City, US

I think in our contemporary democracy it’s become obvious to most of us that the views that we expect from our politicians and the kinds of views that get our politicians elected are… may be completely incongruous with the way they lead their personal lives and what they personally believe. And this is how it can become very morally pernicious… very morally dangerous

Alice: OK, so we elect politicians based on their views – for example on the environment, on education, on foreign policy. But their public views may be incongruous – or not in agreement with – their personal views

Rob: And the difference between their public and personal views can be pernicious – it means deadly or destructive

Alice: Politicians are under scrutiny all the time – their personal lives, their public statements… Now with social media, a thoughtless comment goes viral – or spreads very quickly via the internet

Rob: That’s true. And actually… I posted a photo of my red pick-up truck earlier

Alice: Has it gone viral, Rob

Rob: No, but there is a negative comment from the local conservationists

Alice: Oh dear. Well, Rob, I think it’s time I told you the answer to today’s quiz question. I asked: What did the Ancient Greek word ‘hypocrite’ originally describe? Was it

a) actor

b) politician or

c) horse

Rob: And I said b) politician

Alice: And you were wrong, I’m afraid! Hypokrites was a technical term for a stage actor and was not considered an appropriate role for a public figure. In Athens in the 4th century BC, the great orator Demosthenes ridiculed a rival politician, who had been a successful actor. Well, we’re running out of time so can we hear the words we learned today

Rob: They are

hypocrite inconsistent harsh compassionate catch somebody out morally indignant incongruous pernicious go viral

Alice: Well, that’s the end of today’s 6 Minute English. Don’t forget to join us again soon

Both: Bye